your real issue seems to be reading the part where i say i drop out of fresh wormholes on top of you, with no prior intel warning.

not me who is being outplayed. im pretty close to the limit of how quick a ship can be warped to. game does not allow me to do it any faster. maybe i can shave a second or 2 here and there, but it is what it is. with combat probes, you cant do it in less then 15 seconds. maybe a bit quicker with D-scan if you know in advance where to point your ceptor, but there the risk is you land 100km away.

its simply too safe for the ratter. all because of local.

dont argue. just block. its like jita, block 10-15 known trolls/scammers, and it becomes more or less clear for a while.

Tell me one thing a bot can do that a human(s) can't. I'm a quiver with anticipation.

What's the point of the OP posting this topic if they can't handle people pointing out their tactics could be improved?

It is unfortunate that the OP brought up the bots issue, as it ended up derailing his very valid point.

The bot issue has become smoke and mirror in this thread...

You can have all the cloaked alts you want, but Luminous Spirit mentioned she used wormholes. Unless they are all putting an alt in the connected wormholes too, cloaked alts won't give you that intel.

Using wormholes reduces the effectiveness of intel channels too.

LS seems to have a lot of experience with this and has clearly noticed a change in something. Bots might not be the right conclusion, but there also has to be some doubt that people ratting have all wised up at the same time, though if they are watching d-scan, a combat probe is a sure sign to gtfo.

Nah, I'm just curious as to the validity of forum warriors using alts to post and claiming expertise on anything other than foruming. I'd particularly like to see their killboards.

Responding directly to the OP.

If you want 0.0 null sec kills from ratting alts here go a couple of things I have found to work:
1. Be aware that any afker in a pos/station/cloaked in space can report your presence to the active players next in any channel they wish to.. Attentive players will be in warp when you arrive 1, 2 or even 3 jumps out depending on the nature of the pipe they reside in. To counter this, pass through target pipes with a newbie alt a few times at different times of the day and figure where the "empty" systems are. Make a bookmark close to a target system gate and hand over to your ganking alt. Fly ganking alt out at quietest time of the day and log off in empty system closest to target system.

2. When entering system the only reason to hold cloak is to ensure the gate is clear a d-scan at 1 au should tell you if you're about to get jumped.

3. Don't bother probing. That malaky is for WH space, gang pvp and fleets. Warp to the highest ranked cosmic anomaly immediately. Should have already been covered in this thread - Sanctums > Havens > Hub > Port. Run a narrow (<15 deg) d-scan while in warp to anomaly. Run a narrow d-scan on station while in same warp

4. If there are wrecks and rats in the anomaly when you land warp immediately to the station in system. 0.0 folk often rat in fat lumbering BS and Carriers that can not match the speed you should have.

5. Scan down any Jump Bridges while you are in local. If you see any activity which leads you suspect they might be trying to trap you drop a bubble in line between the gate and jumpbridge - better in a small gang.

I thought the exact same thing, because everytime Infinity made a thread requesting a change, it was for some myopic/short sighted selfish reason revolving around some difficulty in killing ships.

Yep. I remember laughing myself to tears at 4am during that beauty.

This post is pointless and dont prove anything, why do you think they are bots ? they could be afk .

Yep they could be bot while alt tabbed and realize that someone is targeting you since you hear the sound of targetting someone and realize you'r in truble.

Possibilities are so many only blind persons like you can't see how many options could be in this case, and are whining.
Go shoot them, if you like so much.